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[Manga] Chapter 172 Release Thread

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level 1
170 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注okay you guys

you guys

THIS IS A GOOD CHAPTER I REALLY LIKE THIS CHAPTER BUT THE FUCKING ENDING YUKIMURA WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

外围体育投注I CANNOT DEAL WITH IT ANY LONGER

THE MAN IS MARRIED. THEY'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR TWO YEARS.

WILL SOMEBODY TAKE HIS FUCKING VIRGINITY ALREADY GODDAMMIT

I did quite like the rest of the chapter, though. I'm glad it's actually challenging his ideology and showing its flaws. Thorfinn is headstrong with the idealism, but the story is tempering that. And you really see that stubbornly sticking to a Thing is one of Thorfinn's character flaws. He was like that with Askeladd, and now he's deep into it here.
I just hope his gang will manage to keep him sane. I am very worried.

level 2
52 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注I think this final arc Thorfinn is paralleled heavily with prologue Thorfinn. Even visually as he pretty much has come back to the original hair style. There is a repeated theme of characters not really accepting help from others , doing things alone and bearing the burden alone. The biggest examples being Askeladd and Canute (during farmland) and of course young Thorfinn who rejected any help from Leif. And we are slowly coming back to the same point. Gudrid always brought that issue up in the last arc and THE FIRST scene of this arc is dealing with this fact and with Thorfinn being alone in his dream.

外围体育投注Although it would low key be kinda fun if Thorfinn went a bit nuts and channeled Baltic sea war angry Throfinn again.

level 2
19 points · 2 months ago

WILL SOMEBODY TAKE HIS FUCKING VIRGINITY ALREADY GODDAMMIT

There's no way he's still a virgin.

level 2
3 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注THE MAN IS MARRIED. THEY'VE BEEN TOGETHER FOR TWO YEARS.

WILL SOMEBODY TAKE HIS FUCKING VIRGINITY ALREADY GODDAMMIT

why do you assume Thorfinn is a virgin after 2 years of marriage tho

level 2
1 point · 2 months ago

lol you got me in the first half

level 2
-7 points · 2 months agoMore than 1 child
level 1
153 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注This chapter straight up reminded me of patrick's meme.

I unironically liked it.

level 2
171 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注Eyvar: "Listen, those natives will be armed right?"

外围体育投注Thorfinn: "Yes."

Eyvar: "And if we're not armed, they will feel they have power over us, as we can't defend ourselves."

Thorfinn: "That's right"

外围体育投注Eyvar: "So we need weapons in order to maintain a balance of power, right?"

外围体育投注Thorfinn: "That makes sense"

Eyvar: "So let me take my sword to Vinland!"

外围体育投注Thorfinn: "No."

level 2
3 points · 2 months ago

this was really what i have in mind aswell. glad to see other had the same thought lol

level 2
3 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注Memeland Saga in full effect

level 1
80 points · 2 months ago

I'm really curious to see how Yukimura will handle this no-swords issue. You can still hold weapons to protect yourself without causing outward violence towards others. You can always try diplomacy first and be a dove. This method he's trying doesn't seem to be realistic in the least and I'm worried that will lead to a sad ending for us.

外围体育投注Another point is that Hild needs some damn development. She feels like a plot device to stop Thorfinn from touching a weapon and from not straying from this path of his. How much longer is she going to hold a grudge against him? What does she want?

level 2
43 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注I don't really think that Hild's character arc is forgiving Thorfinn or anything along the lines any more. She's like a foil now. If anything she tries to push him here into understanding that simply having a sword isn't what makes the difference.

level 2
10 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注My guess is that Thorfinn's character development has been on opposing sides of the scales to eventually lead him to a balance, as was brought up in the episode.

Initially Thorfinn was a strong believer in violent as a means to get what you want. Now, having seen the damage it does, Thorfinn is completely against it. I'm guessing that either in Vinland or before that Thorfinn will accept violence simply as a means to defend oneself without transgressing, and that might be the end goal of his character development.

外围体育投注It is as everybody pointed out. Pacificism to such a degree is unrealistic, especially in that time period.

外围体育投注As for Hild, I think she'll need more evidence to finally cement her acceptance of Thorfinn, which will then make her a strong supporter and believer of him.

外围体育投注I'm glad we're still in these stages of incomplete character development because it only means that there's a lot left to go = more Vinland for us :))

level 2
5 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注i think the final arc will push Thorfinn to his limits and that it will be Hild who will allow him to draw his weapon. something serious will happen, it can't stay peacefully forever. i mean the vikings never stayed in north america, so Thorfinn's project won't end succesfully.

level 2
2 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注How much longer is she going to hold a grudge against him?

外围体育投注until he dies at the least

level 1
48 points · 2 months ago · edited 2 months ago

外围体育投注I'm not sure why people feel like Thorfinn is suddenly acting stupid. The story has already established that he does not want to fight anymore, and that he is a pacifist. We know this. So why are we surprised, when given his background and what he has been through and achieved through non-violence, to see him once again stand his ground?

外围体育投注Eyvar does make good points, but we know that Thorfinn has been in situations before where he's talked things out, or in situations where it hasn't gone the way he wanted it to. He's had success because he stayed true to his beliefs, and also has had troubles, so we know that he still believes in pacifism. I think some of us are missing the point that this is all turning into a huge lesson for Thorfinn-- that his goal is unattainable. I'm pretty sure the claim to Vinland failed in the history books.

外围体育投注In other words, try not to be mad at Thorfinn because what he’s saying might not make sense to you. Try thinking about what Yukimura might be trying to say using Thorfinn’s thoughts and the plot direction here on out.

level 1
21 points · 2 months ago

外围体育投注25 PAGES?!?!? Yukimura has blessed us.

Great chapter and it shows that while we can get a little weary of where Yukimura is going with the manga, he is still going strong imo, IN YUKIMURA WE TRUST.

I think the fact that Yukimura is showing a strong argument against Thorfinn is a great sign that things will not be as clean cut in Vinland and as Pacifism always winning. I always thought that Thorfinn got a bit lucky, particularly with his encounter with Floki, and how he was often saved from getting in a worse situation.

外围体育投注Eyvar is making a good point, but the Tattoo gang are still being shown as untrustworthy as they are thinking of making moves if Thorfinn dies (Also, this seems like a possible death flag?).

I like the reference to Thors throwing his blade into the water as well. Good reminder of where emotionally Thorfinn is coming from.

Now I thought I would see some development from Hild this chapter but I was wrong. Well not entirely. It seems that Hild got relaxed and chilled enough to even "heh" at them arguing, but once Thorfinn seemed to be not taking responsibility for his actions she got pissed again. I still think she will most likely forgive him in the end or understand him better, but I think her reason for being in the chapter, Eyvar too, was to show that Thorfinn has a ways to go. He is not the finished product. Hild is making the argument that Swords don't kill people, people kill people.外围体育投注 Which good since she is continuing her role thematically in the narrative while also being in line with her character.

Damn, now I just want more and more VS ergh. Another month to wait....

level 1
57 points · 2 months ago

Thorfinn isn't being ridiculous. He's saying by bringing a sword, the people are likely to be swayed by it in evil ways. He's speaking poetically so it's kinda weird to interpret him. Basically to be free from the 'magic' of the sword, the people mustn't bring one.

level 2
40 points · 2 months ago

I think he was saying in a fancy way that when swords are an option, you'll always end up using them. Only by removing them completely can another solution ever be found.

He's not wrong, but it is somewhat overly-idealistic. But I like it.

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